Rod Gillis is going over each of Ferguson's statements asking Pension Board trustee Fred Slipp which words were defamatory.
Slipp admitted Ferguson's criticism of the early retirement programme and the the workplace culture was not directed at the Pension Board.
Slipp also conceded it's permissible for members of Common Council to criticise city staff and agreed with Gillis there appeared to be a conflict between Ferguson and City Solicitor John Nugent, who's also a member of the pension board.
The defamation trial of former Common Councillor John Ferguson has been told if the city's pension plan were wrapped up, it would cost the city close to 400 million dollars.